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THURBER SENDS LETTER FROM JAIL


Thurber sends letter from jail By FOSS FARRAR
Traveler Staff Writer
reporter@arkcity.net

The man accused of killing Cowley College danceline member Jodi Sanderholm in January 2007 sent a letter from his jail cell to another college coed who was on the dance team last fall, a prosecution witness said this afternoon.

Justin Thurber, the defendant in the Sanderholm murder trial, sent a letter to Cowley student Katie Bevilacqua, a finalist last October for Arkalalah queen at Arkansas City's annual fall festival, Bevilacqua testified.

Thurber apparently had read about Bevilacqua in the Traveler's annual Arkalalah supplement, Oct. 19, 2007, in which there was a profile and picture of her and other queen candidates.

Bevilacqua was one of three young women who testified at today's hearing, and one of more than a dozen who have testified for the prosecution in the past two hearings on alleged stalking behavior by Thurber.
Check tomorrow's edition of the Traveler for more information on the afternoon session.I will be interested in hearing what the Cowley County Jail has to say about allowing this letter to be sent out. Stalking from the jail....what next?



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Can they take his mailing rights away? I'm curious about that.. I've never known anyone that was in jail so I don't know how the whole process goes. He has no right in my opinion to be able to stalk and send those types of letters out. Don't they read out going and incoming mail? I just don't get why the letter was able to pass through if they do read it and will be interested too in why it was... I feel bad for the young girl who got the mail.

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They cannot read all of his mail, as it would be an invasion of privacy, however, there may be ways to keep him from mailing to anyone he wants. I've been out of the game for too long to remember all the laws reguarding inmate rights, so if anyone has any info, please advise.

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And, as the law stands right now, sending letters is not stalking, UNLESS a threat is made. That is the whole reason for trying to get the stalking laws changed.

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Granted, a threat may have to be made. But cosidering his past behavior I would have to say that stalking would be a good arguement in court. By just sending this letter to her could constitute a threat in the mind of the reciever. So this will probably be a good one to watch and see how they determine this letter.
When you go to jail you lose the right to complete privacy. You just don't recieve letters without them being opened first and checked for contriban. Everything is checked for contriban, incoming and outgoing. Inmates aren't even alowed to have a paper with a staple in it. They are not allowed to seal an outgoing letter to send it out till corrections has time to scan it. It will be interesting to see where this goes.

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Can they take his mailing rights away? I'm curious about that.. I've never known anyone that was in jail so I don't know how the whole process goes. He has no right in my opinion to be able to stalk and send those types of letters out. Don't they read out going and incoming mail? I just don't get why the letter was able to pass through if they do read it and will be interested too in why it was... I feel bad for the young girl who got the mail.



You might check the Wichita paper for what they determined to be the rights for the BTK killer. I know they wjere tring to take away some of his rights to mail and reading material for the almost the same reasons. It was not clear how those things were allowed or denied. 



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I don't understand where sending a letter becomes a crime? Nobody knows what is in the letter, it never said he sent a multitude of letters to her, just that he sent a letter. For all we know it could have been an apology, or a threat, or mabye just happy birthday wish. That may seem far stretched, but I'm just trying to prove my point that none of us know what this letter was about, whether or not it was stalking.

As far as the whole sending letters and what not, he has not been found guilty of a crime yet, only accused. Subsequently, I would suspect that he would have those privileges since according to the law he is still innocent.

As for prisoners who have been found guilty, their privileges vary depending on the rules of the specific facility and the degree of their crime.

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You do hit on some very true facts here, good post

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Blah,I m sure you don't understand, and no one wants to waste any time trying to explain it to you. If it was your sister that got the letter, you may have seen the issue in a different light....idea Or maybe not.....confused

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First- I will say that yes, You make a good point that he is still innocent so he would still have that right to mail out letters, But he hasn't bonded out and his home is still the jail, So I assume that they have rules there even for those awaiting trial.. I doubt that rules go out the window just because you haven't been founded guilty of your crimes yet.

Second- This guy is dumb as a rock. Go ahead Thurber keep digging your hole. You'd think his attorneys would tell him to stop.. But then again it's his behavior- It's what he does, He doesn't know how or when to stop. It was eerie that the girl he sent the letter to looked like Jodi.


And yes, Your right we don't know what the whole letter says because it's been sealed by the courts... But bits of the letter have been made public and he proceeded to tell her in the letter-


" told Bevilacqua she was the most beautiful contestant, that he wanted to be friends with her, and doing so could be the greatest friendship in her life."


 That is enough info to creep me out. Oh yes Justin I'm so sure this girl wants to friends with the likes of you- You KILLED her friend. yes, his words are non threatening... But we don't know what the rest of the note says, But I think your missing the point. If this girl didn't want mail from him, Then he shouldn't send mail to her. We never claimed he sent " a multitude of letters to her"- I think one was enough. Her first thought when she opened the letter was " THESE ARE THE HANDS THAT KILLED MY FRIEND" Says it all- She obviously DIDN'T want mail from him. That's HER right! And right there is why they are changing the stalking laws- The letter my not of threatened her, But she didn't want them and she shouldn't have to put up with them.

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Bevilacqua said she started crying when she saw that Thurber's name and return address was on the envelope of the letter.

"Why?" asked lead prosecutor and Assistant Attorney General Vic Braden.

"Because it was from Justin Thurber; these are the same hands that killed my friend," she responded.


You may think that sending a letter isn't a crime, But until you step into HER shoes then you can't make that call. He had no right to do that to her, He had no right to put her through those emotions- Would YOU want letters from an accused killer? One that might of killed your friend.... And yes I said " accused" you DIDN'T have to remind me that he is innocent until proven guilty, I already know that.



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hmmmmm

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Elee-
Sure I understand the feelings that would be involved with the recieving of a letter, but at the same time if my sister had got an apology letter from him I wouldn't find a problem with it, and at the time none of you people here had any right to assume otherwise. Now after the fact it may seem like there should be some selective screening of his mail to Ms. Bevilacqua, but seeing how at the time of the initial letter they had no clue of what was going on I do not believe that the prison system should have the ability to screen that first letter. Only after the complaint should they be able to take action.

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1) As I said earlier, it's hard to make a judgement on that kind of situation because nobody knew the situation except for a select few who had the information which you've provided. Cross-apply most of my response to Elee as being responsive to 3/4ths of your post.

2) I don't want 3000 credit card applications in the mail, but I still get the first one until I complain.

3) Nobody knows the mental state of Mr. Thurber at this time, the letter could have been intent to hurt or he might have thought it wasn't a bad thing. At any rate after this incident I believe they should be able to screen any outgoing mail to her or any other person who may have recieved mail from him and complained about the content.

4) I was not trying to push anything about him being innocent until proven guilty. From all the info I have found about prison rules, there is a distinct difference between those guilty and those accused, which was the point I was trying to make. From the info I collected it seems that their legal status and the rules of their particular facility determine the privileges a detained person has.

5) Some of your remarks seem unnecessarily hostile, but I guess it is a touchy subject and I seem to be on the dissenting side.

Until I read this thread again, my friends.

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These thoughts and words goes right into the ideal of the defense council and could be used as an excuse for an appeal and moving this to some where else in the state. It was said that in the start of this trial proceedings that because of the small community that they believe it would be hard to pick a non-prejudice jury. From most of the talk and threads like these they would basicly be right. If you do want to see justice done don't you think it would be wise to keep the talk only to the facts put out from the hearings and not speculations. These legal council for J.T. are not your local hicks and will try to take advantage of these type of things for jury selectionconfused 

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I agree Callus, nothing more from me!wink

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