ummmmmm can someone explain what all that is about,, i really do not understand what peach is blubbering about in her last paragraph

some people are so bitter and angry...

Not a she.

Got me too! I'm not sure why I thought that either. Sometimes it would be nice to know who you are talking too -- I've come to respect alot of the people on here, and their opinions -- even if it doesn't change mine We're all a little stubborn in that respect -- but that's ok. Sometimes it just makes you feel better and other times more frustrated!

Does Lagonda have a special meaning? Just curious.

"Just curious.'
Historical

 la la la la lagonda. (sang to "LaBamba")

What made everyone think Lagonda is a female? Just curious!

argumentitive,extremely opionionated, combative nature, hahahaha not really, he just sounds like a minoroity and figured it was a woman or a college drop out of spanish heritage, 45 year old unemployed ex social worker

Interesting.... I wonder sometimes about whether a person is a male or female if it is not on their profile, but I wonder sometimes if Lagonda works in criminal justice somewhere, because the way somethings are stated in a few of the posts here and on the acflipside blogspot....just a thought!

Thank you for your compliment Lagonda and maybe everyone knows you get all po'ed if we don't agree with you! Think now and again it doesn't hurt to lighten up a little! We aren't getting anywhere that i can see of on this topic, since we all do agree to disagree. Wish we could solve all the the worlds problems, then I wouldn't be so worried about my kids, grandkids and possible greatgrand kids future.

Forget to mention that I have high hopes the name Lagonda has to do with the car, since I am a car buff myself!

Lagonda or Winfield.

Some of the early settlers persisted in calling the settlement Dutch Creek, due to its nearness to a creek by that name. Fortunately this name was dropped: some years later the creek was renamed Timber Creek. There were other settlers who liked the name first given to the settlement by Mrs. C. M. Wood: Lagonda.

In the latter part of 1869 Mr. W. W. Andrews made a wagon trip back to his old home at Leavenworth, Kansas, where he saw the old family preacher, Winfield Scott. At a meeting of the settlers, Andrews informed them that Winfield Scott had told him: If you are going to start a town down there and will give it my name, Winfield, I will come down and build a house of worship for you. The name Winfield was adopted in January 1870.

The following article was in the Thursday, April 15, 1886, issue of the Winfield Courier.


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Is that it? Winfield was called Lagonda then renamed? If so you learn something new everyday!

"Lagonda or Winfield."

I believe we have a winner. Sorry, no prize.

Winfield in territorial Kansas, right at statehood, was named after Winfield Scott, a Methodist preacher from Lawrence.
After he found out it was named Winfield, he came to the town and raised money for a church.
There is a report from the person who kept the ballot that there was intoxication at the "vote" day and she stuffed the ballot box to change the vote to Winfield.

It was named after a Methodist preacher in Lawrence, not after the General that supervised the relocation of the Cherokees in the Treaty of New Echota, from Georgia to Oklahoma (ever hear of the Cherokee Strip?). That was known as the "trail of tears" because thousands died on the brutal forced march from GA to OK. The general ran for president. Fort Scott KS, Winfield AR, Scott County KS, Scott City, KS, Lake Scott, KS, etc, were named after the general at the same time Winfield was named, but Winfield KS was named after a preacher in Lawrence, not after the general who relocated the Cherokees 18 miles south of the town.

Good thing too. Even though he was considered a very popular national hero, the Indians hated Gen Winfield Scott and would not have taken it lightly. Lagonda was a city built on leased Osage land. There were serious Indian insurrections in that time.

The General drove an Aston Martin Lagonda and had problems with carbon on the valves and all the electricals because it was a British car. :)

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658041,00.html

Anyone read this?

County officials consider impact of gangs locally
By JUDITH ZACCARIA
Lifestyles Editor

If you think that gangs are a problem only in big cities like Wichita, think again. Three police officers gave a sobering presentation on gangs to a crowd of about 100 persons Tuesday night at the Winfield Community Center.

The program, sponsored by the Winfield Human Relations Commission, was in two parts. In the first part, Sedgwick County Sheriff's Department deputies Narcisco Narvais and John Scaglione gave an overview: What constitutes a criminal gang, their history, their movement into the Midwest, gangs currently operating in Wichita, the exporting of gang lifestyle through the media.

The second part of the evening was given by Winfield Police Department Master Patrolman Robert Soto, who spoke on the presence of gangs in Cowley County.

The basic motivation for gang membership is respect, Deputy Narvais said. Gangs typically come out of oppressed minorities. People "feel victimized, they feel their safety is a threat," so they get together in a group. Gangs have been part of the American scene since at least 1760, he said.

Ironically, many gangs were begun to protect their neighborhoods. Once they gained local power, however, they often turned to exploitation in the neighborhood and the community.

Kids are attracted to gangs for many reasons: recognition, status, protection, brotherhood, replacement for family, intimidation.

Criminal gangs have three or more members; they work together in crimes to benefit the group; they always have a common identifier - clothes, signals, symbols.

Narvais pointed out that not every group of kids is a gang. Goths are more about a look. Wiccans are into witchcraft but not satanism.

In Wichita, there are about 63 gangs with 3,600 members, he said.

Narvais showed graffiti and translated it for the audience. He said it is so pervasive that sometimes officers miss seeing it for a few days. The various law agencies have to work together to help each other interpret the graffiti.

They have been able to avert several gang battles by finding the graffiti and interpreting it quickly, Scaglione said.

The pervasiveness of gang culture on the Internet and in the arts was striking. It's not just in rap music - though Narvais mentioned such rappers as Ice T and Snoop Doggy as former gang members who are now lauded for their work. Ice T is even on a TV cop show.

Besides the music, there are movies and books promoting gang lifestyle. Gangs are all over the Internet. "You can see gang information on Face Book, on My Space, YouTube," Narvais said. "They have their own Web sites."

Gang clothing has become chic. Here's a story Narvais told: California prisons gave the largest clothes to the Hispanic prisoners to make them look foolish. Instead, the prisoners cleaned and pressed their clothing and began wearing it stylishly to mark themselves out - and turned the oppression into a positive for themselves.

Narvais encouraged parents, teachers, church members to be alert for signs of gang involvement among youths. He warned that kids are getting in earlier - as young as seven - and they're staying in longer - now into their late teens and early 20s. He also gave many suggestions about what to look for in youths' behavior: Changes in behavior, dress, friends, attitudes toward school, church, any authority. He told parents to be alert. Don't pry into kids' lives but pay attention to what you see.

A gang member from Derby High School transferred to Arkansas City High School, Robert Soto said, but the police in Ark City were quick to be aware of him.

"He's a big man when he goes to a town like Ark City," Soto said.

The influx of Hispanic families into Arkansas City because of Creekstone and other businesses has brought gang members in too, he said.

According to Eric Jarvis, Winfield's School Resource Officer at the high school and middle school, there are no gang members in those schools but there is a lot of "interest."

Soto showed many slides of gang graffiti found in Winfield and Arkansas City.

He said gang members are coming into the area to sell drugs. They aren't here in large numbers, but there is a market for their wares, so they will be coming in, he said.

Much of Soto's information comes from inmates at the Cowley County jail. He showed many slides of gang tattoos on the prisoners and translated them for the audience. A number of the inmates identify themselves as members of the Aryan Nation, so the gangs are by no means limited to people of color.

Almost all of them claim they are no longer involved in gangs, Soto said, but he isn't convinced.

"The guys believe they are soldiers, they are doing the work" of the gang, Soto said.

He listed the known gang influences in the county. At least two dozen have individuals who are showing allegiance to them.

One of the reasons police do frequent stops of autos for what seem like minor infractions is to check on who is in the area. "Pretextual stops are perfectly legal in Kansas," Cowley County Attorney Chris Smith said.