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A Hooters in Ark City?? I'll believe that when I see it.  If Apple Bee's or Chile's won't develop in AC, don't count Hooters coming here.  Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see a Hooters open up in Ark City.  They have great Buffalo Wings!


You just brightened my day with the idea of Hooters coming to AC. I wish I knew who the investors were so I could jump on board.



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 I have personally seen the peliminary plans and various contracts. I am unable to give out the name of the people involved due to conditions of employment. The two local colleges and the dreaded opening of more casinos make our town an attractive place to such a low class establishment.


Your responce is what I feared most would have. Women's self-esteem seems to take a far distant second place to "good food". Chili's or AppleBees would be a welcomed addition to our local economy, I do not feel H------ would do anything to improve the quality of life in this town. I believe it would degrade the quality of life for the women who are employed there. 


                                                                           AKansasan


 


 



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RE: Hooters degrading to women?


   First of all, let me say that nobody forces the women who are employed by Hooters to work there. They are proud young ladies who work hard for their money.


   There's no denying that the establishment is using sex appeal to draw in customers and make a buck. They admit it without shame. Their website claims, "Hooters does have an owl inside its logo and uses an owl theme sufficiently to allow debate to occur over the meaning's intent." The women aren't wearing tight Hooters tank tops as a testament to the coolness of owls.


   For whatever reason people go to Hooters it is their own decision. But there's no doubt about it... people will go there. Alot of people. Not only from Ark City, but from alot of communities in the area. It will no doubt bring revenue to AC.


   I can appreciate your views, however conservative, but you seem naive in your thinking. I can't see how any new, lucrative business would be bad for the city. A lot of posts on these forums are concerning how to bring more revenue and people to town.  I sure don't think Hooter's is the answer, but it's not a problem either.



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I agree with scout in the fact that I find it very hard to believe that hooters would every come to AC. But if it does, power too them. We need to get with the times in AC and lets face it, sex sales. This would be a great place to hang out and be able to watch football, basketball, and any other type of ball....And another thing is that hooters does have great food, something that AC is lacking. Nobody forces women to work at a place like this....We live in AMERICA and have the right to make the choice of were we work and what weeat. If you start taking those rights away you go against everything this country has ever fought for.

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Regarding the comment on the morals of this state and this city. I believe it is a bigger problem we are having than just allowing a Hooters in this city. First of all I am not going to try to be judgemental on what others want to see or not see. However, I  believe that part of our problem with our moral fiber lies in what we see in our lives on a regular daily basis. Anyone that has cable television has access to some of the most lude and degrading matieral for men and women. As the guy before me says "sex sells". It always has. Even in biblical times. To me this is a ongoing problem. Being a female, I am not one to want to go to a restraunt and see a scantily clad female serving my dinner. But I am game to see a good restraunt with a tasty menu with a good price, so I am going to remain open minded. If the prices are right, and the food is great I will be a patron, and my male counter part may just enjoy the scenery a lot more than I. I am certian I will not see anything more in a Hooters than I see on cable TV, or a trip to Wal Mart, or a drive down Summit on a  summers day. And I can choose not to go to Hooters....Cable is beamed into my home and may be difficult to shield the children from. So if it will bring jobs to some college students that may need employment for the next school year, I suppose she can wear her tank top to work instead of the pool and at least make some money doing it.

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Hooters coming to Ark City....what a joke.


Must be April Fools!!!



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Great,how many of our young daughters will be getting jobs there for some slobbering old man to look at. .....while his wife refuses to go there to eat with him.Because she doesnt want to see women exploited either.


WHY do we have to have places in Ark city like this? Why cant we get a Chili's or Applebees? Why not a nice FAMILY restraunt?????


I always wondered how many women get turned down for a job there because they dont "qualify"???? IF ONLY there was a HONEST poll....I bet many are turned down because they do not qualify....and I don't mean cause they cant carry a tray of 'BUFFALO WINGS" either.Face it.if you have the "hooters" as men call them...I bet you could get the job.


DISGUSTING.



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I think it is about time that Ark City/Winfield had a decent place to eat.  Regardless of the scenery, when I am hungary all I want is some GOOD FOOD, and I don't want to have to drive all the way to Wichita to get it.


If we can't get a Chili's, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Applebee's, or Boston Market here, lets take what we can get it. 


I know I have seen alot worse on TV and also some of the young ladies walking around town do not cover up themselves as much as they should, so who am I to complain about girls in tight t-shirts and short shorts serving me dinner.  (At least they are working and trying to make a living)   Could it be that some of the older ladies are jealous?   



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If the morals are so high in Ark City and Cowley County, why does that area have such an unusually high teen pregnancy ratio? Just wondering.


Is it because everyone's really bored because there's no Hooter's to go hang out at ?



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Yes, where are the morals?  Citizens would rather complain about a possible Hooters.  What they need to realize is that these businesses take risks, and great ones in this case, coming to this town.  It appears that so many poeple are worried about the moral fiber of this town being unravelled.  Well guess what that happened a long time ago.  How many bars do we have?  How many fights are there?  And that just scratches the surface.  What about a main problem that everyone seems to ignore?  Drug use and selling in this town.  Do any of you have any idea how much of a problem this is.  Talk about moral fiber.  Lets all just ignore the major problem in our society and focus on a business that we may or may not want in this town.  The morals have seriously declined, almost to the point that we are all blind to them.  Take a step back and look at the pros and cons.



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First  Kansas approves the lottery, nothing short of gambling. Next casinos are approved. Then it was Sunday liquor sales. The morals of this state and town have declined, but now they have reached a new low.


It's this type of simple minded, 1950's psycho babble which puts Kansas on the map as hardcore-Christian-fanatical-conservative state!! I am utterly shocked you were able to properly operate the internet, let alone a computer to post such nonesense!! You have to be 65 million years old.

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Your responce is what I feared most would have. Women's self-esteem seems to take a far distant second place to "good food"....I believe it would degrade the quality of life for the women who are employed there.


I ask you - How is being employed degrading?

Would you rather these women work at a male dominated meat packing plant for six dollars an hour or not work at all? Perhaps they should get on welfare so you and I can support them? Being employed is empowering - not degrading. You are degrading these women by labeling them as not having self esteem because of a job. You know, sometimes a job is just means to an end and doesnt necessarily define a persons character. You should be ashamed of yourself.


I think you need to redefine your understanding of what immoral is and is not.



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To those that think that I, and people like me, belong in the past, fine you have every right to your opinion. Truth be told I hope I am wrong and that my critics are right. We shall soon find out.      


The H**ters will open in the new strip mall that is being built by the new Walmart. To those that say this is a joke, my reply is "I wish". My employer has provided the necessary funding to start the build. I have personally seen the paperwork stating as such. I am unable to comment further, as I would place my job at risk. If I was fired I am to old and have to much self respect to have to get a job at H**ters.


As I stated above I hope for the sake of this town and the young women of this town that I am wrong. However I cannot see anything good coming from this. I had hoped by bringing it to light that people would respond against the H**ters. We could have stopped it from ever being built, now we will just have to take a wait and see attitude.



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You know what is hilarious? People who look down at the rest of society from their high horses are often the same people who are empatically religious and attend church weekly. What I find so amazing about these people, is that they preach and JUDGE and bitch about others. Now correct me if Im wrong, but doesnt the WORD teach not to pass judgement upon other lest ye be judged???? They should really look within themselves and deal with the unhappiness within, instead of focusing on others.


Its like the same people who say choose life not an abortion. IF you dont think people should have an abortion, then you personally shouldnt. If a hooters happens upon ARK City, and you dont want to stare a young (tanned) girls and eat delicious wings and oysters, then DONT GO. If you think people shouldnt buy alcohol on Sundays, then you personally shouldnt buy alcohol on Sundays.


 


If you want to shun big buisness establishments from Ark city, as well as jobs (lest you forget young girls arent the only ones who work at Hooters, they employ cooks, bartenders, hostesses, prep crew, bussers) not to mention stimulation of the local economy. Maybe some young person will work at the said Hooters instead of hanging with his-her freinds and developing a meth addiction which they have to break into your home to finance!


Close minded Conservatives SUCK!


Hooters- BRING IT ON



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Truth be told I hope I am wrong and that my critics are right.

You do not.

My employer has provided the necessary funding to start the build. I have personally seen the paperwork stating as such. I am unable to comment further, as I would place my job at risk. If I was fired I am to old and have to much self respect to have to get a job at H**ters.


You need to brush up on logical(aka circular) reasoning.

1.) Hooters is degrading to women.
2.) You have too much respect for yourself to work at Hooters.
3.) You will not patronize Hooters.
4.) You think a job absolutley defines a persons character.

However

1.) Your employer is funding the build of Hooters.
2.) Your employer is making a profit off the funding it's lending to Hooters.
3.) Your employer pays you because of profits made from lending to establishments like Hooters.
4.) You cash a paycheck.

In essence you do work for Hooters becaue they are a customer of your employer. Perhaps you should quit your job in protest as you are an accompliance in degradation of women. Shocking, is it not? ha.

...now we will just have to take a wait and see attitude.

I agree, I will wait for my food to be delivered by a Hooters waitress while I sip a beer and watch a football game on Sunday afternoons.

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This is what really disturbs me,, someone like you and many others of your kind who judge others and yet proclaim that you are a person of God, This is why i do not attend church in this community,, the self appointed sin judges like yourself who cannot seperate, what morality is and what you chose to make it.


 Wake up Ark city, your letting yourself be sucked down the drain, by a person who judges you and yet tells you that you cannot judge them


translations of church and the word of God are understood differently by each individual, as they were intended to be, your religous tradtions were not intended to be inflicted upon others, you are informed to spread the word of God and help others, not condem them with your idealism! if you chose to live in heaven Now!! theres only one way to get there quickly that i know of!


Hooters could help this drounding city, we must look towards the younger generation to sustain the city and we cannot continue to stamp out thier progress with our continued Moral delimas, let them make the choice of what they want!!!



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  Our first real restaraunt in this city and it has to be a Hooters! Thanks guys ( and I'm sure it is GUYS who are bringing it here) Although I have no problem with the whole Hooter's issue I just wish that we could have more restaraunts here... You know... Spice it up.


   But on the issue of morals in this town. Oh come on! It's not 1790! There are waaay too many fufu's in this town. I know this is YOUR opinion but you are on a public forum and we are going to post ours as well. You can walk outside your door and see people wearing less or the same amount of clothes that the wait staff will be wearing. I see it ALL the time. My only problem is... I know what the people in this town look like, Yikes... Hahaha I'm going to go blind :)       Honestly thats the ONLY bad thing about.


  Arkansasan- I think you'll enjoy this emoticon-



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http://www.hooters.com/company/franchising/


Sorry to disappoint, but I did some research and found there are no franchising opportunities available in the United States.  Nice try.  So if you want to see some Hooters the closest place is Wichita...or Sadie’s Ladies.



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people like you are the reason morals are a problem. you make up a lie hoping to stir up trouble, hoping the rumor will take off. i to researched a little into this subject. a investment like this would have to have a millon dollars in liquid assests, that means cash in the bank. anyone with that kind of money is not going to make a dumb investment like that in our small city. next time atleast look at the web sight to see if the lie your telling is at all possible. also if it was true i would hope your boss would fire you for running your mouth about his private business.



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Oh, come on.... just because casinos, a possible Hooters or anything else comes our way, where do you get the idea that these things cause moral decay?  I fear more  Arkansas City losing its entire identity due to the constant influx of illegal aliens....yes, illegal aliens.... in the city.


  Small towns are dying everywhere... it`s necessary to keep new things coming in to keep the artery from being severed and sustain the city`s life.  Please, stop buying into the bull of the religious conservatives and join the majority. Count your blessings.... Ark City is much more progressive than Winfield, not afraid to try new things, although that is changing, finally.  Attitudes like yours will kill a town.



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I have a better question... Where is the grammar of AC?

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First  Kansas approves the lottery, nothing short of gambling. Next casinos are approved. Then it was Sunday liquor sales. The morals of this state and town have declined, but now they have reached a new low.


Local investors have bought a franchise and plan to open a H**TERS restaraunt on the north side of town. This company is based solely on the use of the female body to sell thier products. Plans call for the completion by the end of November. I urge all to show your morals and respect for women by not dining at this establishment.      AKansasan


 



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Fred Phelps hates Hooters too. My wife hopes someone in town will open a "Major Walnut's" soon. Fred hates that one too.



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