I'm down to anyone but Obama.

Motherof2, I'm curious.. why anyone but Obama. I hope it's not because of the internet rumors (like him being muslim, anti-America, etc), because those have been proven false. see: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

I'd rather have him than Billary, just because she (and Bill) are as crooked as they come.

I will have to weigh things if it comes down to Obama and McCain, but if it's Hillary and McCain, then McCain will get my vote, simply because he's not Hillary. PLUS, I know he won't try to take our Second Amendment rights the way Hillary will.

And just in case you all might think it's because she's a woman, let me assure you that's not it. I hated Bill too, simply because they both are political guerillas... they will do ANYTHING to get into, or stay in, power. Just ask Vince Foster if you don't believe me.

SG, did you watch Hannity & Colmes last night? Did you see the link to Obama and the Muslim's? Honestly, if he was a muslim, it would not keep me from voting for him. There is a difference between a Muslim and a radical terrorist.

I did see Hannity where they talked about Obama's ties to a domestic Terrorist (a white guy... whodathunkit).

Makes me wonder when they will start picking Clinton apart. She has so many bones in her closet, it will be tough to decide where to start. So far, it's been nicey nicey.

And I have to disagree about hillary wanting what's best for the country. NAFTA was put in place during the Clinton years after all, and we've seen how great that's been. And I was under the impression that Obama was against NAFTA, not for it, as you stated.

I am starting to come around to Obama. I like the fact that he is staying composed while Clinton is stooping to low down dirty tactics, like leaking the photo of him in a turban to make people believe he is muslim. I don't like the fact that he will give illegals amnesty, or try to ban our guns, BUT Hillary would do those things too, and McCain would support Amnesty anyway.

I hope Obama gets the nomination, and that our votes actually count for something, instead of having him win the majority of the vote, and having Clinton steal the nomination.

Beside, There have been enough Clintons and Bushs in the White house!

Gosh. The Clintons are murderers too? 50 mysterious deaths. How can I find out more?

1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6. Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton i n the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment.

19-Jon Pa rnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July, 1988
29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.
30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".
34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan

Quite a list of tragedy. There have been plane crashes that haven't resulted in this many deaths. Moral to the story- don't be friends with the Clintons'.

What a full and smelly load of hogwash.
I thought it was only Dick Cheney that shot people.

This "information' was directly copied from a web site:
http://www.stewwebb.com/Hillary_Clinton_Murders_March_27_2007.htm

You seem to have missed the "Bush Crime Family Flowchart" on their main page that links George W. Bush through Jackson Stevens and Stevens and Harken Energy DIRECTLY to Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster and their crime family murders and crime syndication gang.:
http://www.stewwebb.com/Bush_Millman_Clinton_Lindner_Crime_Family_Flow_Chart1.jpg

Is any of that true either? Of course not. You know those rightwing nutcases I keep referring to?
This website is from one of those.

I've said it before, now once again:
First think: is there any way in God's green earth that any of this stuff could be even slightly true?
Then: is it likely to be true?
Then: can any of this be substantiated by anybody else........

Oh forget it. Some people will believe anything, not know the difference, and then repeat it like it is true.
(and get P.O.'ed when called down.)

That's actually NOT the website I got it from, but I'm sure you can find it on several. And I think anyone that could substantiate it is now either dead or would be alittle scared to speak up if you know what I mean....hahahaha

I don't believe everything I read but when the Clinton's were in office there were alot of news reports even in the "MAIN STREAM" media about all the suicides and untimely deaths of people involved with the Clinton's - this isn't new. But I suppose the Monica Lewinsky scandal was a Right Wing conspiracy too, like Hillary went on National TV and told us.

Actually alot of your beliefs sound like some liberal talking points I've heard before, repeatedly-- so MAYBE you believe anything, not know the difference and then repeat it like it is true???? (and get P.O.'ed when called down.)

I'm glad your getting some of that bitterness out. It must be hard keeping it all bottled up.

You know how the old saying goes, if it walks like a _____, talks like a ______, then it is a ______.

Here's the person by person accounting of your "Clinton murdering campaign".

Strangely, some of the "murdered" people died of pneumonia, some of the people just had names similar to the people you say, and Ag Sec Ron Brown flew into a mountain in Africa with 34 other people. I guess someone could have shot him in the top of the head right before they all crashed and died, but they didn't find a bullet or evidence of a gunshot, and it sure doesn't make any sense. Some of these "stories" are about people who knew people who knew the Clintons.

Here is the stuff:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

It is an urban legend, the kind of story that appeals to weak minded whisper campaigns and storytelling, but has no basis in truth.

You don't actually believe any of the "conspiracy" stuff, do you?

The gal that was on Showtime that did the filming in Ark City a few years ago puts out conspiracy DVDs about 9/11 and "new world order" stuff and how we are all going to be gotten by this group or that one and how one political party always lies while the other always tells the truth, etc. You would probably really get into that and you might check it all out.

Very scary. Like Friday the 13th and Chucky. But nobody actually believes that crap.

The duck says: I think there is plenty of room for a conservative to call something stupid when he sees it.

There are plenty of truthful things to say about Hillary Clinton without making up foolish nonsense.

Kenneth Starr said Vince Foster committed a suicide.
I guess he is now a part of the cover up conspiracy too.
I wonder what kind of deal Hillary Clinton made with Kenneth Starr to get him to flip over to the dark side? Must have threatened his life or something.

Get real.

Buy a fact.

It's just like my request for you to identify the person who said they were in support of illegal immigration.

Got real quiet didn't it?

I'll do it again.

OK, let's say we're all really dumb and we believe Hillary Clinton is guilty of a murder conspiracy.

Don't try to correct me or do the side shuffle here. That is exactly what the rightwing nutcases say it is, in exactly those words.

Who exactly did she murder?

And don't say "all of them" or 50 people or some nebulous grouping or "must have been someone".

Give me one name of one person she murdered.

I thought so.

You are so interested in having me take off my "liberal" blinders and see both sides.
The issue you present is: "Is it possible that at least one of them (the list of 50) died because of their relationship with Clinton?" ( I hope I'm restating it properly, I'm trying to be accurate here)

First, the initial reply was not to you, but was to another person who stated the Clinton Murder Conspiracy to be fact, which, without any slight shadow of a doubt, it is not fact.

I didn't actually see you stating this stuff as fact, but you were raising the possibility that some might be true.

Second, I accept your challenge of this "both sides" thing and include you in this process. So:

Is it possible that at least one of them (the list of 50) died because of their relationship with Clinton?

Or:

Is it possible that none of them (the list of 50) died because of their relationship with Clinton?

I know you say you are too stubborn to reply when asked a question. This is something I am OK with, because it seems a shared trait between us. I'm pretty stubborn too. And grumpy sometimes. But also sometimes it is time to put up or ST#U, and we both know that one too.

In my America, though, if there is a CHANCE something MIGHT be true, that doesn't make it true, and you don't make half baked accusations based on that. That is what I mean by buy a fact.

If there is something that someone makes up about people, even public elected officials, and then they state this as being truth or as fact, then that is called a lie and those people who made it up are called liars, not right wing republicans.

Apparently the acid test for whether you are a liberal is if you don't believe this crap as complete truth. I sure don't. Nor do I buy the social crap. But for those on the far right, anyone toward the middle looks way, way over there, don't they.

I refuse to believe that the only thing remaining of conservatives is a goofball right wing that believes bald accusation as fact. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

I know a hell-of-a-lot-of honest and intelligent republicans and none of them are liberals.